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		<title>By: Rational Survivability &#187; For Data to Survive, It Must ADAPT&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rational Survivability &#187; For Data to Survive, It Must ADAPT&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Christofer Hoff</title>
		<link>http://mcwresearch.com/archives/481/comment-page-1#comment-3304</link>
		<dc:creator>Christofer Hoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lonervamp:

For the last 2-3 years, I&#039;ve reacted allergically to the Jericho Forum&#039;s message -- to be specific, the abrasive notion of &quot;deperimeterization marketing&quot; but not the actual concepts.

If you read the other post I made regarding Vista, you&#039;ll see that this concept is now quite real...as you alluded to with IPv6...

Get rid of the fancy verbs describing what the JF boys are mentoring and it makes a lot of sense.

I have changed my perspective on this.

/Hoff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lonervamp:</p>
<p>For the last 2-3 years, I&#8217;ve reacted allergically to the Jericho Forum&#8217;s message &#8212; to be specific, the abrasive notion of &#8220;deperimeterization marketing&#8221; but not the actual concepts.</p>
<p>If you read the other post I made regarding Vista, you&#8217;ll see that this concept is now quite real&#8230;as you alluded to with IPv6&#8230;</p>
<p>Get rid of the fancy verbs describing what the JF boys are mentoring and it makes a lot of sense.</p>
<p>I have changed my perspective on this.</p>
<p>/Hoff</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 08:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here I thought David Hasselhoff moved from red swimming trunks and slugging women to blogging about information security. 

Thanks everyone for bursting my bubble.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here I thought David Hasselhoff moved from red swimming trunks and slugging women to blogging about information security. </p>
<p>Thanks everyone for bursting my bubble.  <img src='http://mcwresearch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LonerVamp</title>
		<link>http://mcwresearch.com/archives/481/comment-page-1#comment-2707</link>
		<dc:creator>LonerVamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 13:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reading the Jericho Forum link you posted, of course I realize that we can&#039;t even begin to agree about such things as deperimeterization...let alone whether security will move to the host or server or where it should be. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reading the Jericho Forum link you posted, of course I realize that we can&#8217;t even begin to agree about such things as deperimeterization&#8230;let alone whether security will move to the host or server or where it should be. <img src='http://mcwresearch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LonerVamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>LonerVamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 13:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a bit more supportive of the network being more important as we move forward. I&#039;ve not read Hoff&#039;s post yet, but I think the host is harder because the OS keeps changing every few years. Everyone that has secured the host for Win XP has all new rules and things to learn with Vista. The network has stayed much more stable for decades, which has led to what feels like more maturity in the field.

Of course, ipv6 is still coming which will be a big change. And the whole &quot;net neutrality&quot; or &quot;should ISPs do more for security&quot; could change this all up too. :(

I&#039;m with ya, though, sprinkle in some of both for a better approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a bit more supportive of the network being more important as we move forward. I&#8217;ve not read Hoff&#8217;s post yet, but I think the host is harder because the OS keeps changing every few years. Everyone that has secured the host for Win XP has all new rules and things to learn with Vista. The network has stayed much more stable for decades, which has led to what feels like more maturity in the field.</p>
<p>Of course, ipv6 is still coming which will be a big change. And the whole &#8220;net neutrality&#8221; or &#8220;should ISPs do more for security&#8221; could change this all up too. <img src='http://mcwresearch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with ya, though, sprinkle in some of both for a better approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 13:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael&#039;s just confusing Chris and David Hasselhoff.  It&#039;s easy to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael&#8217;s just confusing Chris and David Hasselhoff.  It&#8217;s easy to do.</p>
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		<title>By: alan shimel</title>
		<link>http://mcwresearch.com/archives/481/comment-page-1#comment-2704</link>
		<dc:creator>alan shimel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 12:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael- I think you mean Chris Hoff.  It must be that bad beer!  Speak to you soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael- I think you mean Chris Hoff.  It must be that bad beer!  Speak to you soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Newby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Newby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 11:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;d better change that to &quot;Chris Hoff&quot;. &quot;David Hoff&quot; sounds dangerously close to Knight Rider/Mitch. 
He&#039;s a good guy, but you don&#039;t want to get on the wrong side of his sarcasm... from experience. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;d better change that to &#8220;Chris Hoff&#8221;. &#8220;David Hoff&#8221; sounds dangerously close to Knight Rider/Mitch.<br />
He&#8217;s a good guy, but you don&#8217;t want to get on the wrong side of his sarcasm&#8230; from experience. <img src='http://mcwresearch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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